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Are you referring to the Rambam vs. Tosfos machlokes of how many strings to dye with techeiles?

rhecht wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 6:18 pm The Septuagint translates Techeiles as Yakinthos/Iakanthos.

 

Yes, that is the same word as hyacinthina with a different suffix

Nosson wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:19 am...

MilanH:

How else did they get blue pre-synthetic dies?

 

Could it have been from indigo?

Nosson wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:18 pm Why no proof of Techeiles used for blue by Goyim?

A picture is worth a thousand words.

I already linked to a painting of Charlemagne and son wearing blue cloaks.

What's wrong with that?

 

I did not see that link, is there proof that it was blue from murex?

Mr Genugshoin was referring to specific evidence of a dyeing industry in Egypt. I recall reading about it but I forgot the details. There is indeed no point in speculation. 
 

2. They definitely did not do that for tzitzis.
3. someone should definitely pen a counter piece to Koren, however it would be recommendable that they actually understand what he is saying and have a coherent argument against his position. So far I've seen none.
 

1. If I'm not mistaken, there was a thriving murex industry in Egypt during the times of the Rambam, which raises difficulty why he did not know of it.
And if you are mistaken?



Then there was no murex industry thriving in Egypt during the times of the Rambam.




I don't remember all the ...

Mr. wrote:Thu Jan 01, 1970 12:02 am 1. If I'm not mistaken, there was a thriving murex industry in Egypt during the times of the Rambam, which raises difficulty why he did not know of it.




 

And if you are mistaken?
 

There are a lot of unknowns from a historical perspective. I'm not going to disprove anything that was written but will add food for thought.

1. Just because there was a pocket of use in Constantinople in the 15th century (1453) does not mean the Jews knew anything about it - exile and lack of ...

A bit of a more specific question relating to nignaz; Murex snail dyeing historically was done in the Mediterranean through the 11th and 12th century. How do early Meforshim such as Rambam and Rashi’s lack of clear explanation for what the chilazon is and how the dyeing process is performed for ...